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Poetry Marathon Archive Ten


FourFiveOne

 nothing holding us 
 back, nothing holding us
 down, nothing holding us
 away, nothing holding us
 apart but
 you knew there was a but because
 we are apart and away and
 i am held back
 i am held back from touching the back of your hand and from
 washing dishes with you
 and from picking a flower and giving it to you instead of
 picking off it's petals
 one at a 
 time
 leaving sap
 on my fingers
 sticking them together

--marina


FourFiveTwo

 I am held back from 
 reaching out to you
 by the fear and insecurity 
 that still remain within me,
 hiding deep inside from long ago.
 What if,
 when I reach out to try and help,
 I accidently do more harm than good?
 What if,
 what I want to say comes out all wrong,
 and you get mad at me?
 What if I make the leap,
 and trust you completely,
 and you fail to catch me?
 What if you laugh,
 or what if you are surprised by that part of me,
 and decide you don't like me anymore
 because of it.
 What if?

--Kathleen


FourFiveThree

What if I make the leap.

No ground below, only arms flailing,

Open air

Only blue sky and a strangled yell from way down there

At the bottom.

What if I never reach the other side,

Even though you told me I would.

What if you were wrong?

How can I trust you now?

In a world where balck and white don't exist

In a world where we pretend they do.

Taking the leap, I leap every day

Yet never so far as now.

Reach out my arms,

Reach

Oh please catch me

Surprise, wide eyes, tears

Blinding sunlight.

Oh my God. They caught me.

~Becky~


NumberFourFiftyFour

 Only blue sky and a strangled yell from way down there
 as i look up and lift off
 to see if i can fly.
 you know it's been my dream, every time i've stood at the edge
 the wind tempts, oh god, it tempts me and it Pulls me
 coaxes
 persuades
 and every other word you can think of, it wants me to fall into it.
 the waves crash below but i don't look at them.
 i know the wind will be a rush against my face
 i know what my hair will feel like
 that my eyes will sting and my smile will split in two
 one half going east the other spiraling west
 i know that if my heart is heavy
 it will plumet
 with a splash
 and i will never worry again.
 i know that if i look back
 i might sink
 and so
 i won't. i'll just open my arms and
 not even hear the yells below
 as the sky opens up, and they watch, and someone else
 who wishes
 stands at the edge
 to take my place.

--RoyaBoya


FourFiveFive

 I know that if I look back,
 It will only make leaving more painful
 than it already is.
 But I look back into your eyes anyway,
 just one more time.
 I just couldn't help it.
 I know if I think about what I'm leaving,
 and how long it will be until I can see you again,
 it would just be too much for me too handle.
 So as I board the plane,
 I rebuild the walls around my heart.
 Nothing gets out now,
 and nothing comes in.
 And so I live alone,
 surrounded by people,
 but seeing only my dreams and memories. 

--Kathleen


NumberFourFiveSix

 i just couldn't help it
 you don't know me and so i'm
 as safe as i can be with
 friends of friends.
 and if i laugh too loud
 don't send me to bed
 it's just that i am good at making friends
 and maybe magic will wear off
 in a few weeks.
 
 but i'm looking for a way
 to keep the glitter
 in my eyes
 and not have it
 fall onto my cheeks
 where people mistake a lack of sleep for tears
 i'm trying to figure out
 how to type fast enough to keep the attention
 and how to go about
 laughing softer
 but still have everybody listen.

--RoyaBoya


FourFiveSeven

 i just couldn't help it
 I am a bad person and
 so bitter I would make you
 squint for a month
 
 no
 just jealous
 bitchy little brat 
 
 i don't need help
 as much as the next person
 and the morning is always
 delicate orange and just peachy

FourFiveEight

 The morning is always better.
 After a good night's sleep,
 the sun shines brighter,
 and things aren't quite as bad
 as they were the night before.
 Morning comes, 
 and the birds are singing,
 and it's all okay.
 But after every morning
 comes another night.
 And it's the nights I'm scared of.
 Because at night,
 the lonelyness comes hunting.
 Not all nights are bad,
 but some nights, 
 it catches me.
 And I sink deeper
 into a pit of heartache and depression.

--Kathleen


*FourFiftyNine*

 I try and think of other things
 anything but you
 I run from temptation to tell you about it 
 but it catches me
 I know I will end up telling you some day
 so what is the use trying to deny it? 
 I try to make it leave me alone
 but it refuses, 
 doesn't leave me, 
 I stay with it. 
 as miserable 
 and pessamistic as it makes me
 I stay with it. 
 when will you know? 

--jekissa


FourSixZero

 The dream doesn't leave me,
 it comes back again and again.
 You're here, 
 and I'm here too.
 We're together,
 dancing, singing, laughing, talking
 and just being.
 I watch you sleeping peacefully,
 and slowly I begin to wake up.
 Once I awaken,
 you're gone,
 but the dream is still there,
 waiting for me to come back.

--Kathleen


NumberFourSixOne

 still there,
 waiting for me, at home
 the ants
 the dishes
 the laundry
 the phone calls from all the wrong people.
 there's no food in the kitchen
 and there are mosquitos
 buzzing
 hovering at the outside edges of my consciousness
 the couch cushions are scattered on the floor, and
 
 i really need to call him about that
 and soon.
 waiting for me when i walk through the door;
 the guilt, the heaviness, the loneliness.
 so i suck on frozen grapes and try to stay as sweet
 i try to remember that
 i like to smile.
 and laughter is the best medicine, and
 i'm not really sick.
 i try to remember that
 waiting for me when i walk out that door
 is an entire world for me to learn,
 an entire population for me to hug
 and more wishes than a dandelion can carry.
 i try to remember that
 when i walk through the doors
 and can't even manage
 to untie my shoes.

--RoyaBoya


 MoreShit (462)
 Why
 Why why why why why why why why why why
 Is all
 Screaming
 I try
 Hold on
 While I try
 Nothing will come of it
 I try to remember that

--Zen


FourSixtyThree

 Hold on.
 Hold on baby.
 I've already eaten the blackberries from the yard,
 I've already eaten the ice cream in the freezer,
 I've already eaten my heart out
 And it's still there baby. Still there.
 I'm not sated yet, even though I've tried.
 I leave tomorrow and what if they hate me?
 I'm not coming back for 8 days 
 And who's gonna miss me when I'm gone?
 I scare everyone away in the end. 
 You know I don't, but let me say it anyway.
 They all fly away like pigeons
 And I'm a squirrel with a nut in my big, chipped teeth
 Cracking and gnawing and not looking around.
 Wait on baby.
 Wait on.
 Just a little longer now 
 And then I can dump out the garbage when I come back home.

~Becky~


NumberFourSixyFour

 cracking and gnawing on this piece of
 memory 
 stuck between my teeth
 i should't have eaten it i knew it would
 splinter and cut my throat
 
 when i try to talk i croak, and
 you laugh.
 and you laugh.
 and i roar silently with pain
 my throat aching so that i can't hear
 your voice, the main reason i called, of course.
 and i miss you
 and i wanted you to know
 i have been living off of bones and graphite
 since we left.

--RoyaBoya


FourSixFive

 When I first got back,
 I could almost see you smile,
 almost sense you sitting next to me,
 almost feel you hugging me,
 as I hugged you back.
 I could almost hear you laugh,
 almost hear your voice
 singing along with mine.
 I could almost touch you,
 even though you were 
 hundreds and hundreds of miles away.
 Now you're no farther away than you were before,
 but you're not as clear in my mind anymore.
 Every day we spend apart,
 your picture becomes a little more fuzzy,
 your voice a little less clear.
 Every now I hear that song,
 or something cues that one memory,
 and you're with me again,
 like we've never parted.
 Those moments come less often now
 than they did before.
 But I still dream of you,
 and count the days until I see you again.

--Kathleen


FourSixSix

 you're no farther away than you were before
 it's still just as hard to reach out and touch you
 and maybe even a little easier
 to touch you with my words
 you can still hear me just as easy
 if not easier
 than you could when we were sitting on the futon
 face to face
 and i could have reached out and touched your hand
 but now i'm so far away
 i don't remember whether i did

--marina


FourSixSeven

 I want another late night spent just talking,
 face to face,
 hand in hand,
 together.
 Another night spent cuddling on the couch,
 laughing at the movie,
 our silly jokes,
 each other.
 Another sunrise watched together,
 the stars slowly fading as the sky grows lighter.
 Another night of singing softly outside,
 under the stars,
 another night of dancing
 until we're ready to fall down.
 I want another night together.

--Kathleen


FourSixEight

 Another sunrise watched together
 they're starting to run together
 Another series of silly jokes and Don'tQuoteThat s
 Another sleepy face, smile
 it's getting harder to tell them apart
 in my mind
 still I wouldn't give any of them up
 I wouldn't narrow down the light
 just so that I could see clearly.

---marina


469- The Goose Drank Wine

In My Mind

  It's getting more difficult - this act of turning images into 
  words, of speaking these words..
  They are wearing someone else's clothes, and they speak other   
  languages, and their eyes will not look into mine.
  
  Hours seeing only their backs before i realise that they are there -
  i can look at something else besides their backs - not turning  
  around.
 
  I do not know their names, I cannot say them, so that they will
  turn in question, in knowledge. 
  "Yes?"
  Turn.
  They do not know I am here.
  Here are their feet - dusty from travel. Sandals like old dogs. 
  Blind tenacity. Blind sleep. This one's ankle is swollen, she    
  tripped on the way to the well this morning.
  The one in the blue shawl is dying, she knows this in the
  back of her mind . . .  Her grandson helps her in the garden.
  The one with the yellow ribbon braided into her hair thinks of her
  lover, whom she has not yet met, as she weaves.
  Her mother, who is as the Earth is to us -
  Our mother, forgotten or remembered
  is in the kitchen always,
  is in the garden, singing..
  What does she see in the cooking pot?
  Images.
  Now I do not know what she does - that was last week, when I knew
  her name, told the sky it.
  That is how I think.
  The meaning of images. 
  Geography.
  There is no common point. I am here, you are over there.
  To tell you that i woke up, my arm a beach with no ocean ...  To 
  tell you that the rain woke me up, or was it the beach, or the  
  ocean? 
  I cannot say.

--Carrie

P.S. Will someone please take this one apart? carrie at nbtsc.org


FourSevenZero

 It's quite magical,
 this act of turning images into words.
 I sit here by the open window,
 and try hard to turn memories and feelings
 into mere words.
 Into something that can be conveyed by computer.
 There are so many things 
 that words cannot easily describe.
 It takes practice, 
 and a talent for writing,
 to relay a perfect picture,
 an emotion or a memory
 through words.
 Sometimes it works,
 most times, not.
 But sometimes,
 the words just flow.
 And I find I have painted a perfect picture,
 using only words.

--Kathleen


FourSevenOne

 this act of turning images into words
 takes up all my mind space
 and i grouse at my stuttering computer, thinking 
 if i can do this can't it play me music while i type
 and chat, and click to download that one really cool song...
 but i keep typing
 even as a small moth flitters by and my head turns
 to look, and the box on the bottom of my screen flashes
 and i click to see who's talking now
 sing along to the CD for a moment
 but keep typing
 keep typing all these random images, processing
 compacting, contracting, releasing onto
 the screen
 a poem
 a collection of the sparking synapses behind my eyes

--marina


FourSevenTwo

 If I can do this,
 I can do anything.
 Anything I put my mind to.
 For example,
 that piano piece.
 So what if it's years beyond my skill level?
 I wish to be able to play it.
 And so, with enough practice,
 I can.
 I wish to fly across the country,
 just to spend a few days at a party.
 A little planning,
 a little money,
 and I'm there.
 Anything is possible,
 as long as I believe it can be.
 I can do anything.
 And so can you.

--Kathleen


 FourSevenThree
 Well hello there
 what do i have here?
 a little boy 
 lost in everything and anything
 swimming in love hate and worries
 hello little boy
 what do i have here?
 a story wanting to be read?
 a song never said?
 tears that don't fall?
 or is this all of this at once?
 look at me little boy
 look hard 
 i am so much like you 
 so so so like you 
 your cuts are like me
 your worries
 songs never sang
 kisses never given
 food never eaten
 but you see little boy
 i got out
 And so can you.

--Heather


*474*

 
 i can understand where 
 you're coming from 
 your worries, 
 your thoughts, 
 your opinions, 
 i'm not surprised you don't agree with me.
 you never have
 and you probably never will 
 neither of us really want to hear 
 what the other has to say
 we've both heard each other enough 
 to know that nothing's changed 
 so why bother listening anymore?

--jekissa

 
 (Hey, no one was writing, so I wrote one based on my last one )

475

 nothing's changed 
 here at home
 since last I saw you
 
 I still live in a cage
 even though I put myself in it
 
 I still want to leave
 but I bury myself a deep burrow 
 without knowing what it does to me
 
 I still pine for you 
 your laughter 
 and your love
 
 it's still there, I know 
 but I can't reach it from where I stand 
 I can't feel you near 
 in this cage 
 
 I see the key, so close
 I reach for it
 it is so far 
 and yet too near 
 help me, I'm stuck 
 in a place where I can't escape 
 how did I dig myself into a whole this deep?
 
 more importantly
 when will I let myself out? 

--jekissa


FourSevenSix

 I'm locked in this cage.
 I built it myself over the years,
 not noticing what I was doing.
 I can get out if I really want to.
 It wouldn't be an easy thing to do,
 but I'm the only one 
 who can unlock the door.
 I could get out,
 but the idea is a bit scary.
 I'm held back by this cage,
 but it also protects me.
 Freedom or safety.
 Hard question.
 But I reach for the key,
 and open the door,
 and step out
 into the world.
 And since I don't look back,
 I don't notice that the cage
 vanishes behind me.

--Kathleen


477

 I buried it in the ground
 I left it behind 
 I forgot about it long ago
 
 I stumbled upon it again one day
 last week 
 I had forgotten all about what it does 
 and how it works 
 I'll get used to it. 
 It sure is good to have my common sense back. 
 (Kathleen, I have writers block! Forgive me.) 

--jekissa


FourSevenEight

 It was dragging me down,
 deeper and deeper.
 So I left it behind.
 Tossed it out the window,
 and went on without it.
 And was much happier.
 But if followed me, 
 trailing behind like a lost puppy.
 And though I told it
 again and again
 to just go away,
 it still hung around.
 I think I've managed to ditch it for good,
 most of the time anyway.
 But every now and again,
 it still shows up.

--Kathleen


479

 
 I asked you to just go away 
 need I count how many times? 
 and now when I need you 
 I regret telling you to leave me alone
 you're here, but so far away 
 I can see you 
 I can hear you 
 but our eyes never meet
 you avoid me now 
 what can I do
 do get you to talk to me again?

--jekissa


FourEightZero

 You're so far away.
 I read what you write,
 and I worry about you.
 Why can't you see how incredible you are?
 Just the thought of you makes me smile.
 I turn on music,
 and dance,
 but dancing is no fun without you.
 You post a poem,
 and I read it
 over and over again.
 Because I can almost hear your voice reading it aloud.
 I dream about you alot.
 You're always so much taller than me in my dreams.
 We dance in them,
 or just talk, 
 or hug.
 You say you don't like yourself.
 I can't find anything about you not to like.
 You're so stunningly beautiful in my eyes,
 inside and out.
 I can't imagine how anyone could see you
 and not notice how wonderful you are.

--Kathleen


*481*

 I think I could like you. 
 Just maybe.  
 You humor me, and make me laugh 
 but not much is actually there
 I feel comfortable with you...
 but not completely. 
 I don't feel like I can trust you. 
 
 I wished upon a star 
 that someone like you would come around 
 and now I feel a wish wasted 
 when I could have wished for something else...
 someone who maybe listens? 
 someone who isn't as focused on the past 
 as I am 
 someone to take me away,
 someone who doesn't remind me of all the things I don't like
 I realize that isn't practical either 
 but what can I wish for in a person 
 that wouldn't be complicated?
 
 the stars could have done better...
 I like you. I just can't help feeling dissapointed. 
 how to say I'm sorry?

--jekissa


FourEightTwo

 I feel comfortable around you.
 I don't feel like I have to hide anything,
 I don't have to watch what I say,
 for fear you'll look at me funny,
 or reject me.
 With you I'm safe.
 But the problem is,
 I'm not with you very often.
 So when you're gone,
 I build up the walls around my heart
 and I let no one in.
 And don't let anything real out.

--Kathleen


 486
 i don't let anything good out
 and I let no one in.
 its just me in here
 just me and my brain
 its lonely
 but you have stoped caring
 therefor i box you out
 your not that good
 i dont nead you no more
 you where always the iceing on the cake
 oh god 
 i always loved iceing on cake

no

 i dont want you back
 no
 no
 no 
 not this game again
 i don't want you now
 no
 no 
 no
 never again will you come back
 oh man
 never?

--Heather


484

 i don't need you anymore
 i don't -want- you anymore
 i don't like this anymore
 
 I have no choices
 I feel imprisoned
 no outlets visible 
 no place to go 
 
 I don't like you anymore
 I don't like who you've become 
 what happened to the old days?

--jekissa


FourEightFive

 I don't like this.
 I'm riding a never ending rollercoaster.
 On the way up, 
 I can sit back and admire the view.
 On the way down,
 it's all I can do to hold on.
 I want to cry,
 but I'm afraid to.
 Last time I did it hurt too much.
 I believe this is the bad night
 that I've been so afraid of since the last bad night.
 I need to sleep,
 but I'm so so scared of what will happen if I go to bed
 and am left alone with just me and my thoughts.
 The bad nights are getting fewer and farther between,
 but each one is all the more worse to make up for it.

--Kathleen


486

 I understand you love her
 but what about me? 
 why can't you care about me too? 
 is there not enough space for me?
 i want to cry into your arms
 but I'm afraid to
 I don't get a place
 unless you're in love with me? 
 why does it seem to work that way...

--jekissa


FourEightSeven

 I want to cry into your arms,
 but how can I do that?
 To cry,
 first I'd have to admit
 that I can't stand on my own,
 and that I'm not always quite as strong 
 as I pretend to be.
 If you needed help,
 I would be there,
 strong, and ready to help and soften your fall.
 But who comforts the strong?
 and how can you tell when I'm about to fall hard,
 when I myself don't notice 
 until it's too late.

--Kathleen


FourDoubleEight

 I myself don't notice my nose
 unless I happen to look down, or if it itches
 and it's itched enough in sixteen years that
 I don't have to think about scratching it.
 I suppose if I had to list one thing
 I've learned in sixteen years
 it would be scratching something I don't notice.
 Maybe by the time I'm
 thirty two I'll learn
 to scratch in between my shoulder blades
 when now, it takes other arms around me.

--marina


NumberFourEightyNine

 maybe by the time i'm 
 ready to fall back into bed
 i'll have
 soaked in a little more excitement.
 it seems a pity to fall asleep
 before anything's really
 happened.
 sleep is for the weak, sleep should be for those who have had
 terribly enriching days
 and are worn out from jumping from train to train or
 have been swimming around the world
 
 but those of us who have done
 nothing but sit
 and wait
 should continue doing that
 until something a little more
 sparkly
 comes along.

--RoyaBoya


FourNineZero

 I want to wrap you in my arms
 and just hold you there.
 Protect you 
 from all the bad things.
 But I can't do that.
 It's not possible to completely shield someone from harm.
 And so I try to help,
 in any way I can.
 But it's hard, 
 for most of the time,
 I can do nothing but sit
 and watch.
 And though I can't just fly in
 and whisk all your troubles away,
 my arms are always open,
 and I'm always ready to listen.

--Kathleen


 491
 hello over there
 how are you today?
 how maney times have you cryed?
 you look like you need something
 but you don't know what
 hello over there
 how are you really doing?
 i actuly want to know
 i actuly care
 hello over there
 come
 poor out your heart
 it's safe with me
 hello over there
 did you know
 that you are beautiful?
 that the sun will rise and fall
 the stars will sing
 the moon will dance
 and I'm always ready to listen.
 hello over there
 come
 poor your heart out
 it's safe with me

--Heather


FourNinetyTwo

 I saw your sillhouettes against the window
 One leaning into the other
 I smiled as I leaned against the wall
 Paying no attention to the crowd of passengers
 Then the bus began to move 
 And I saw your fingers pressed to the glass in a formation I've known for
so long
 The only piece of sign language I've ever learned
 "I love you"
 I love you
 I love you 
 I love you
 I held myself in all the way home
 Waited until the time was right
 I'm good at that
 It took a while before I was alone
 But I finally got to cry
 Goodbyes are a way of life for us, aren't they?
 You might think I'd get better at them after three years
 But it never gets easier, no
 It gets harder, really, every time
 And is it worth it?
 ...

Yes.

 It's only harder
 Because I love you more.
 Sure it's worth it.
 Goodbye.

--Mitchell


493

 Goodbye.
 I'm summer and you're winter
 With so much distance
 With so much time
 Between us
 We could never be entwined
 Goodbye
 I'm summer and you're winter
 Let's meet in the middle
 When I fall

--Zen


494

 I won't be there again
 last time, that was an accident
 I didn't mean to be in the way
 I screwed it all up again for you, didn't I?
 I want you to care about me
 I can't stand to be in the way
 everything you say to me means so much  
 will you be there when I fall?
 I'm sorry again, for being in the way, 
 smothering you 
 but how else can I get through to you how much I care?
 I care.
 do you hear that? 
 that's me... 

--jekissa


FourNineFive

 Will you be there when I fall?
 Some days it seems I will never fall.
 Seems I can stand strong enough
 to support both myself
 and you.
 But then the night comes,
 and I know that I won't always be able 
 to be strong enough to stand alone.
 But I've never doubted,
 not even for a minute 
 that I could catch you
 if you fell.
 But I wonder,
 will you be there to catch me?

--Kathleen


fourninesix

 
 I've never doubted
 that it would all come crashing down 
 I knew it, from the tone in your voice
 and the way you wouldn't look me 
 in the eyes anymore. 
 I'm so paranoid, you say-
 am I really... 
 I am only so paranoid 
 as I have to be 
 other wise everything would be a surprise 
 and I'd get hurt more than I am now. 
 I don't need more pain now. 
 I have you, and you are pain 
 

--jekissa


FourNineSeven

 I can't keep you safe,
 it's impossible,
 and you would resent it if I tried.
 And so instead I try to keep myself safe.
 I wrap my heart in tissue paper
 and put it away in a box,
 telling myself
 I don't need more pain now.
 If I don't trust,
 I can't be hurt.
 So I leave it there
 until I think it's safe 
 to bring it out again.
 I'm too easily hurt
 to trust other people with my heart.
 But you managed to get into the box
 and now you have my heart.
 I don't want it back anymore.
 It's as much yours as mine now.
 But now since you have my heart,
 a few words from you can make me soar,
 or bring me smashing to the ground.
 But I know I'm safe with you.
 You won't break my heart.
 Because it's as much yours as it is mine,
 and it would hurt you as much as it would me.

--Kathleen


ForNiNate

 And so instead I try to keep myself safe.
 I lock my heart away,
 I lock my soul away,
 I avert my eyes from you,
 (Every single one of the you who might spot the haunted look within them)
 I throw away the key.
 I write my soul in bold where someone in Katmandu could read it.
 Which is to say I keep it locked inside me.
 my only outlet is the least real.
 I keep closest only those furthest away.
 And even then I deny they read my soul.
 No one does.
 Even those who remark on it later.
 They didn't really read that.
 I didn't really type that out loud did I?
 My rage.
 My love.
 My sarcasm.
 "Bad Poetry is good for my health" he said.
 "Bad Poetry is my life these days."
 "Bad Poetry is freight hopping for kicks when you own a car."
 "Bad Poetry is the good shit."
 "Oh come on, you've known all along I'm going to be a lawyer."
 He told me these things and I was bitter for the lack of him.
 I craved the crack of him.
 I need my bitter halfs to let out my witty side.
 I need to get the hell out of here before I'll remember how to let these
walls down.
 This state isn't big enough for the both of us.
 Equally scarred by father and first love.
 How cliche.
    ~z~

 FourNinetyNine
 I can't STAND you when you're like this
 and you seem to be ignoring me anyway
 my rage tore us apart, 
 I figured it out all on my own 
 you'd be proud. 
 I was just remembering when I used to like you
 and how something you said 
 made me feel like shit. 
 I never said anything
 I hate making you mad...
 or I used to, anyway. 
 I could give a shit now, right?
 I still have my rage
 i'd rather have it then you
 which makes no sense... 
 since I was only angry because of you.

--jekissa


FiveHundred

 I can't stand you anymore.
 Being around you is bad for both of us,
 because I get mean.
 And I don't feel sorry for it,
 not really.
 But I don't like being mean.
 And you didn't do anything 
 to make me mad at you.
 Well, you didn't do anything directly to me, anyway.
 But if you can't see why I'm mad at you,
 look a little closer.
 You can't hurt my friend like that,
 and expect me to not be mad.

--Kathleen

 
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