Hello again.... you may wish to seek psychiatric help... the masked avenger (i like that better than hero. :) ) Ethan K, aka Lobotomy on IRC, is a very....er...shall we say outspoken person. Take what he says any way you want, though it's usually not the way he means it. What do you think of Ethan? <I>i shall be the first to comment on this subject. i love ethan. i think he's fun and interesting and sharp-witted and awesome. i like how he keeps me on my toes. people give me the weirdest looks when i say 'yes, i like ethan, he's cool.' i think ethan is misunderstood by many and don't get why so many people are offended by him. i don't take what he says personally and therefore am never pissed off by him. i've always wondered...why DOES ethan annoy so many people? feel free to enlighten me.</I> ~Angel~ hmm... yo! i've only talked to this creature once on irc, and damn he's funny. our conversation consisted of me talking about french fries, me purposefully confusing him as to what gender i am, and then him informing me that he's in love with me. reading the below text in which ethan is 'attacked', he then 'defends' himself, he's 'attacked', 'defends' and so on in this somewhat dreary cycle, i do get the impression that ethan is drastically misunderstood. damn, people, it's okay to see stupidity in your own actions! but it really pisses you off when someone else tells you you're stupid. see, i am one example of complete and utter stupidity. at least i'm aware of that. but if other outside people don't start telling me i'm stupid, i'm gonna become arrogant! and oh geez that would be pathetic. but if he were to drastically insult me, i think i could take it. well... maybe not. emotionally, i'm sort of wimpy. damn. i have to work on that. so Ethan, diss me any time! like i said, you're damn funny and i'd love to get to know you. i dunno if it's your place to lighten up these moany unschoolers, but you seemed to have assumed the position for yourself so good luck. i wish i could help you, but unfortunately when talking to these people whom i love so dearly (damn that souded sarcastic but it so wasn't) i am totally sucked into their moods. i guess that makes me somewhat a... chamelion. another thing i have to work on. have fun, dear. ~naomi the moth i think that ethan can say some really inconsiderate and nasty things, and almost every time i've talked to him on IRC i totally let him get to me and almost ended up crying. i really think he should pay more attention to what he says. i don't think telling someone they should just kill themselves and help with the overpopulation problem when they're depressed is a nice thing to say _at__all_. he should really think about it. really. i'm going to try to not be affected by him as much as i have let myself be in the past. KateLet Ethan, is a very good friend of mine. He's nice, and he's very truthful. I think mostly why people don't understand him, and are hurt by him, is because he's very honest, he doesn't sugar coat things at all, he says what's on his mind.. and it's very cool. I like that a lot in him. if you ask him something important, he will tell you honestly. since most people don't get total honesty very much, they don't understand it. I totally agree with Angel. he's very nice, though he can be harsh, and unpolite, and brutely honest, you really just have to look past that, and then you'll see that he's great! and that he's a good friend. I'm glad that he and I are friends. -Lydia Lalala... Okay. Um. ethan thinks i'm a total bitchy dork because i get pissed off at him and i'm such an emotional person, etc., etc., etc... and i take offense to what he says. i just think it's SO uncalled for when for example, someone comes online, says theyre depressed, and (this really happened!) he tells them to kill themselves. (!!) i know he was joking, but still. i've been in the middle of an arguement and he adds imput to something he knows nothing about. i realize a lot of people like him, and i'm sure it would be different if i met him irl, but for now, i have a bit of conflict with him. ~jenla
I have never met ethan before but i have talked to him on irc quite a bit and althought he has said some stuff to me that other people got offened by i never really cared.......... i mean whatever i don't think he;s serious about half the stuff he says and i think i'd really like him if met him~ love rachel From what you guys say he actually sounds a lot like me.... You must understand, when you talk to someone online all you get is their words, not ther tone... I have offended many people online, simply because they have not understood that I meant thing in a light-hearted manner.... I frequently say inappropriate things at inappropriate times, but it not meant in a mean way, instead is intended to lighten the mood.... I do not know Ethan, so obviously I can not speak for him when I say these things. He may have a totally different intention with his comments, but he deserves the benefit of the doubt.... furthermore, I think many people (particularly people from camp) often take things, and themselves, too seriously. If they could overcome this tendency they would be less likely to be offended by people such as Ethan and myself...... Jason (aka Argo)
Well if you're trying to lighten them up, consider me on the bandwagon... I take it you haven't been to camp? Imagine 100 people who take stuff too seriously.. kinda scary.... I think if they lightened up they would realize being this way is much more enjoyable. Who the hell wants to be serious about everything all the time?... before camp last year I kinda went on a rampage offending people (not intentionlly, just being myself), and then I kinda dissappeared for a while.. but Rick said come back, so I did (if this gets people mad at you, rick, sorry).... anyway, now we can work together to make these people a less somber bunch............... you can sometimes see me in the chat room as Argo, but I'm going out of town in about.. 8 hours, so i'll talk to you more after i get back...... jason Ethan is a tactless jackass. That's pretty much all there is to it. If you look past this, he's a really nice guy. Funny and the rest. It's just that he's an asshole. Some of you happen to be fragile, timid people that can't deal with it. And that's fine, too. You are also really nice people if you look past this. The idea is that everybody save me has flaws, and that we (er, you all) need to look past these or deal with it when people don't look past yours. -God
I haven't met ya before Ethan, but I have to say, if there's one thing that drives me nuts it's people who go into channels, get ops, act like a jackass, and then later claim they were doing it to 'show everyone that they need to be more careful' just because they realize they actually wouldn't mind being friends with the people in the channel. You have no CLUE how many people I've seen do just that.. I mean, at least own up to the fact that you were being less than sociable. I hate when people make excuses for their behavior. Don't take this as an attack against you, I haven't met you yet so I'm not one to judge, but that's my view on that. - Zen Dude. It's accurate. Don't bash me for being bluntly truthful...if you can't take it, you're stupid and brittle. (ref: Pamphlet of Ethanity, http://www.nbtsc.org/~lobotomy ) This last sentence is just to take up space. -God Zen: Hmm. Usually when people say things as stupid as what you just did, I erase the wrongness and replace it with the truth, but since this is wiki wiki, if i did that, no one would know about your assault on sense so here it is. I was interested in all you NBTSC'ers before I talked to any of the people who have posted here, save Lydia. Actually, it was because of Lydia (and other such HOC/NBTSC crossovers) that I wanted to get to know you people. In no way have i changed my attitude becuase of some satori that you all rule. The attitude resulted from the interest, not the other way around, as you seem to have misconstrued. To quote my words which you read and twisted around inside your tree-hugging-hippy head, "I keep hoping that if i offend them enough, they will develope a skin thick enough to protect their feelings from getting hurt so often." If that isn't owning up to my lack of sociability, I'll change my name to something as foolish as yours. I'm gonna quote myself again as your words aren't good for anything. "Yeah, its pretty frikken arrogent of me to demand that you change for me, instead of vice versa, but thats the way it works with me." That doesn't sound like an excuse for my behavior to me. It sounds like i realize what i do and that it's bad a lot of the time. Nowhere in my response to all this did i excuse myself. I merely tried to explain myself in hopes of the brightest among you coming to understand me. Again, since you dont understand the reality of this situation or the maturity to realize that and keep your mouth shut, I shall quote myself. ""The lesson that giving any schmuck who wanders into your channel ops is a really dumb idea. Specifically, a dumb idea because of people like me." YOU gave ME ops. I didn't ask, i didn't wheedle, they were given freely, time and time again. I was opped, i fucked around, i informed the opper of their stupidity. This scene was played out time and time again. So, unless you guys are going for gandhi-esque passive resistance, STOP! So, my dearest Pookie-Zen, by all means whine about who i am and what i think. You weak, brittle people seem to enjoy that sort of thing. But please, dont criticize how i go about being an asshole. I have it down pretty tight. Oh, and next time, please follow the three steps to disagreeing with something someone has written. 1. Read. 2. Comphrehend. THEN, and only THEN, 3. Disagree.
*That was arrogant, so you're progressing, but if your goal is to NOT be talking out of your ass, you might want to include why and or how I am breaking my own rules. I think that challenging people to question their beliefs is a good thing, but there is no need to be rude about it. Yes I can be rude and obnoxious quite a bit, but I still hold merit in general manners. I just find his manner a little off-putting. The other night he was pontificating about the extreme personal pain he feels, and it seemed to come across as more of a piece of performance art then an actual cry for help. I have not yet fully developed an opinion of Ethan, I need to talk to him more I suppose. -gennie
I don't really know Ethan all that well, but from what i know of him, he is person who says what he thinks and knows what he believes in and he acts on that. Naturally, since every person is different and has seperate beliefs and seperate ways of acting on them, it makes sense that some people find Ethan offensive and/or unreasonable. I haven't experienced anything extremely offensive or disturbing from Ethan yet, but who knows, maybe i will in the future. However, even if Ethan does do something that i don't necessarily agree with or i think is absolutally stupid and crazy~there isn't too much i can do about it. Ethan is his own person and the way he is, is the way he acts, and in changing the way he acts, you are basically completely changing Ethan as a person. I know that for some of you, you wouldn't mind Ethan getting completely changed as a person, but i guess you should just keep in mind that everyone is different, and there isn't too much you can do about him being different~i guess it's just the way he is. As for me and certain other people, Ethan can be viewed as an inspiration for some people because he does what he wants and knows what he wants, and most people don't know what they want, let alone act on it. Even in the future, if Ethan does offend me, of course i will be upset (i mean, most people are upset when someone insults or hurts them) i just have to remember that he's Ethan and even if he pisses me off i don't want to change him as a person just because i might not like something he does/says. *~OnaLiE~*
Sorry Ethan~I didn't mean to insult your personal growth. I know that you are changing just as everyone else is, but when i said it (see above) i meant it in a way that people need to just accept other people or deal with it. It's really hard for one person to completely change another person, and just think about it, what happens if everyone changed everyone else so that they would be the way that individual person liked them? Then everyone would have to act completely different in front of everyone else, depending on who they are around. So then, when you really think about it, you are really never your own person. So i didn't mean it as a personal insult Ethan=) I actually think it's really awesome that you act on what you believe in, i know that i sure don't act on what i believe in or think is right the majority of the time so sometimes it's real nice to find someone who does=) *OnaLiE*
YO. ETHAN. I LOVE THIS BITCH. HE CRACKS ME UP. yeaaah. He's my boy boy who I have to unfortanatly share with Naomi but I think he's super funny and spontaeneous and rockin.. even though i've never met him... but but.. yeah. I will one day.. but for now.. I think if you just dont let his commments get to you, then you'll love him to death. chocolate death. love you- Raaaaaaaaaaaachel NBTSWikiWiki | Recent ChangesEdited 44 times, last edited on September 18, 2000 by 63.28.23.207. © 2000 NBTSC Webmasters |
